The Interview between The Interview
May 14th, 2008 by MickKern
Brad Larsen of the Atlanta Thrashers sat in with “The War Room” today, and outside of myself foolishly thinking he was a defenceman, the hour was informative, and entertaining.
That is not always the case with professional athletes. Many of them are not necessarily preparing themselves for a post-hockey career as a public speaker, though that may be changing somewhat, as more and more ex-jocks are realizing that the easiest jobs in the world are in the hockey media.
A day after having Andrew Ference of the Boston Bruins join us on the phone, The War Room featured another well-spoken, thoughful hockey player. Larsen was candid, and offered insightful comments about the current N.H.L. playoffs and hot-button issues such as visors, and retaliation.
His point about fans and most media not really knowing what goes on inside a particular dressing room is valid; as a member of that media, and more importantly, as a lifelong fan, I am very aware of this, and try to keep this in mind when discussing anything about sports. The N.H.L. playoffs are a perfect example; it’s usually only after a playoff series is over that we get official confirmation that certain players were nursing injuries, hence their less-than-stellar performance…unless Harry Sinden is in the mood to spill the beans.
A similar scenario happens when the hosts of Home Ice XM 204 (and your local sports-talk station) turn off the microphones and go to a commercial break.
Some of the best interviews take place off-the-air, during those breaks.
Not on purpose. Who wants to waste a great question when the mics are turned off? We all want to be thought of as a great radio interviewer/host. We all want our Mommy to be proud of us, now that she no longer hangs our crayon art on the fridge door.
The conversation that takes place with a guest in-studio during a commercial break happens because of the need for small-talk. You’ve just finished grilling said guest for the past ten minutes…and then you go to break to sell something.
You could just stare at each other, but most of these guys are huge. Larsen, for example, is only six feet tall (I’m an inch taller), but he’s in great shape, and possesses a vice-grip handshake. There will be no staring at each other during the break. There could be blood.
You could stare at your computer screen, mindlessly reading your email, and searching for pictures of Scarlett Johansson (have I given too much away here?), but that would also be rude.
So you talk. About things. Life. The kids. How’s your portfolio doing? Found any good pictures of Scarlett?
Inevitably, you talk hockey. In the case of Mr. Larsen, we talked about his days with the Chicago Wolves of the American Hockey League. He played the entire 2004-05 season with the Wolves, and went to the Calder Cup Final against the eventual champions, the Philadelphia Phantoms, who won in four straight.
Larsen spoke glowingly of his days with the Wolves, mentioning that the fans filled that building, even outdrawing the Chicago Blackhawks. Larsen also suited up for the Hershey Bears for parts of six seasons during his A.H.L. days.
The trouble is, as interesting as his tale was about his days with the Wolves, by the time the commercial break was over, so was the momentum for this story. We could have gone-to-air and re-asked him the same question, but my experience has been that the re-telling of the tale is not nearly as good the second time around.
Which reminds me of a time I was working at a Canadian-based all-sports radio network at the beginning of this decade. I had set up a phone interview with a journalist from Winnipeg, who was investigating some questionable financial practises surrounding the building of a new hockey arena in downtown Winnipeg.
The interview was frank and hit upon a number of points that should be of concern to any taxpayer who does not like seeing public money unquestionably poured into privately-owned playpens for the rich.
The trouble is, the interview was being recorded on to a minidisc, and as wonderful as that recording medium is, sometimes it’s prone to burps. And on this day, the minidisc burped.
Which meant that the interview did not get recorded. Which meant, as a show producer, I was one segment short. Which meant we had to call the journalist up and ask him (beg him) to redo the interview.
He reluctantly agreed to do so. The second time around, he pulled his punches. While salient points were still raised, the entire tone of the interview lacked the fire of the unrecorded original. The journalist obviously had time to reflect on his initial statements, and toned down the majority of them the second time through.
The point being…always back up any interview.
Okay, the point being here, strike while the iron is hot. The second time around, even the good parts will sound rehearsed. It may not sound that way to the listener, but the host knows it, and it’s very difficult to reconstruct the initial approach without sounding phoney, and that comes through over the air.
So, next time we have a guest in-studio, I’ll just mindlessly check my email during the commercial breaks.
- Mick Kern


